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09:23 shahsachin> http://www.sachinshah.in/post/2010/03/27/Finally-Fedora-is-on-my-laptop.aspx
09:23 shahsachin> Fedora needs work on QA and reliabilty.
09:25 kital> shahsachin: you are welcome to contribute on QA
09:25 kital> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Join
09:25 shahsachin> kital: Frankly Fedora sucks.I am not sure why I chose it in the first place.
09:27 kital> shahsachin: you are welcome to make it better
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Monday, March 29, 2010
Thursday, March 25, 2010
Open Expo 2010 - Bern
get up at 03:30am to attend a Open Expo Bern for Fedora - this must mean something - senile insomnia ;) ?
I had to travel around 4 hours from Stuttgart to Bern - and brought all the SWAG and booth-material with me, and we could start most punctual at 08:00 with building up the booth. Open Expo in Bern is always a great place to gather new contributors, because there are a lot students and i think i acomplished my goal to convince some people to join and contribute - one valuable person for sure!
The venue is great - and free drinks and food is provided for all visitors and exhibitors! Open Expo shares the place with Topsoft - which is the commercial part of the trade show. Funny, while OpenExpo Space was crowded most of the time - the Topsoft part was nearly empty ;) - mhm ...
I was happy to meet the Fedora-Event-Owner Fabian and Timea who always taking care for me - strange swiss power-plugs, swiss coins for parking and all the small details that makes you feel good and welcome.
Sascha Spreitzer joined us from Zurich and it is always a pleasure to hear his lateral opinions and fresh ideas ;)
Meeting people from all over the world is one awesome part of working inside the Fedora Project. And while Chitlesh - who is original from Mauritius - was my mentor and guide into the Fedora Project - it was crazy to meet Amit Caleechurn who is also from Mauritius, where i had the pleasure to help him to become a part of the Fedora Ambassador Group.
It is sad, that i can not attend the Open Expo Day two - because of my job - and miss Thibaults visit.
Here are my Event-Pictures!
I had to travel around 4 hours from Stuttgart to Bern - and brought all the SWAG and booth-material with me, and we could start most punctual at 08:00 with building up the booth. Open Expo in Bern is always a great place to gather new contributors, because there are a lot students and i think i acomplished my goal to convince some people to join and contribute - one valuable person for sure!
The venue is great - and free drinks and food is provided for all visitors and exhibitors! Open Expo shares the place with Topsoft - which is the commercial part of the trade show. Funny, while OpenExpo Space was crowded most of the time - the Topsoft part was nearly empty ;) - mhm ...
I was happy to meet the Fedora-Event-Owner Fabian and Timea who always taking care for me - strange swiss power-plugs, swiss coins for parking and all the small details that makes you feel good and welcome.
Sascha Spreitzer joined us from Zurich and it is always a pleasure to hear his lateral opinions and fresh ideas ;)
Meeting people from all over the world is one awesome part of working inside the Fedora Project. And while Chitlesh - who is original from Mauritius - was my mentor and guide into the Fedora Project - it was crazy to meet Amit Caleechurn who is also from Mauritius, where i had the pleasure to help him to become a part of the Fedora Ambassador Group.
It is sad, that i can not attend the Open Expo Day two - because of my job - and miss Thibaults visit.
Here are my Event-Pictures!
Wednesday, March 17, 2010
Fedora Galerie -
it is always the same - where to store my pictures after an event? I do not like the flickr´s and similar to store all my fedora event pictures. The Fedora People Space is limited and what the static generators could produce for me was ok, but not automated and still needed a lot space. Over the years i had my Fedora galeries dispersed across several systems, where nobody - even me - can find or remember them.
Robert Scheck worked on a nice - static but automated - "fedora-galerie-generator-uploader" and choosed me as the pre-alpha-tester.
Yesterday i moved all my galeries - to my new fedora-galerie - result is the perfect solution for me. Thanks Robert, can not wait to see this as a package in Fedora!
Robert Scheck worked on a nice - static but automated - "fedora-galerie-generator-uploader" and choosed me as the pre-alpha-tester.
Yesterday i moved all my galeries - to my new fedora-galerie - result is the perfect solution for me. Thanks Robert, can not wait to see this as a package in Fedora!
Monday, March 15, 2010
CLT Day2
this is what can happen if CentOS and Fedora People have a social event - they build the missing link, the 5th "F" - Fish ;)
Can you imagine the victims that this caused? :P
Our Second Day on CLT was a bit quieter than Saturday - but we had still constantly visitors on the booth and handed out around 250 cd/dvd and we collected also some money for the USB-Sticks and the T-Shirts which we gave away - we used this money to help Bert to cover his costs for the fuel of his car and to sponsor LOAD in Antwerpen, Belguim. I look forward to see some of the visitors become contributors.
Chemnitzer Linuxtage are a wonderful event - community driven, contributor centered in a very friendly atmosphere - a big thanks go to the CLT organization team - it is still the best organized foss-event i know.
All my Pictures of CLT2010.
Can you imagine the victims that this caused? :P
Our Second Day on CLT was a bit quieter than Saturday - but we had still constantly visitors on the booth and handed out around 250 cd/dvd and we collected also some money for the USB-Sticks and the T-Shirts which we gave away - we used this money to help Bert to cover his costs for the fuel of his car and to sponsor LOAD in Antwerpen, Belguim. I look forward to see some of the visitors become contributors.
Chemnitzer Linuxtage are a wonderful event - community driven, contributor centered in a very friendly atmosphere - a big thanks go to the CLT organization team - it is still the best organized foss-event i know.
All my Pictures of CLT2010.
Sunday, March 14, 2010
CLT Day1
This is for sure, people here a awake early - we had a crowded booth right from the beginning here at Chemnitzer Linuxtage 2010 CLT Day 1
Fedora had a good visibility througout the building and the CLT Team enlighted our Logo with Red Lights ;)
Visitor Flow was constantly high - and we talked with several potential Contributors and People who we know from IRC like "nadu".
Debian based Distros presence is very high from Visitor and Exhibitor-Side.
And sure there were also people who wanted just trolling around and wanted to confront us with claiming bugs - but if you ask them to report a bug, offer help with reporting the bug or ask them to show and reproduce the problem they complain and proceed whining. These are people i definitely do not count into our Target Audience ;P
Because the Fedora presence on our booth was well covered with booth-personal - some other Fedora Contributors decided to support XFCE and work at the XFCE Booth - so we doubled our chances to spread Fedora ;)
The Chaos Computer Club CCC - located behind our Booth - made honour to the name and spread some Chaos to our Booth with smashing a Glas Bottle filled with lemonade accross our cables - CCC thanks for cleaning it up ;)
Day one was great - i skip the social event to visit my parents who live near Chemnitz. I am sure the fedora gang will have a lot of fun.
Fedora had a good visibility througout the building and the CLT Team enlighted our Logo with Red Lights ;)
Visitor Flow was constantly high - and we talked with several potential Contributors and People who we know from IRC like "nadu".
Debian based Distros presence is very high from Visitor and Exhibitor-Side.
And sure there were also people who wanted just trolling around and wanted to confront us with claiming bugs - but if you ask them to report a bug, offer help with reporting the bug or ask them to show and reproduce the problem they complain and proceed whining. These are people i definitely do not count into our Target Audience ;P
Because the Fedora presence on our booth was well covered with booth-personal - some other Fedora Contributors decided to support XFCE and work at the XFCE Booth - so we doubled our chances to spread Fedora ;)
The Chaos Computer Club CCC - located behind our Booth - made honour to the name and spread some Chaos to our Booth with smashing a Glas Bottle filled with lemonade accross our cables - CCC thanks for cleaning it up ;)
Day one was great - i skip the social event to visit my parents who live near Chemnitz. I am sure the fedora gang will have a lot of fun.
Saturday, March 13, 2010
CLT Day 0
While a lot Fedora People are looking forward to the Marketing FAD this weekend - Robert Scheck and i have started to prepare for Chemnitzer Linuxtage 2010 - one of our bigger EMEA Events - this weekend.
We arrived at 05:00 pm at the location and found a cool big booth, prepared for Fedora. We just made some cosmetics and will do the rest tomorrow. Now we will go back to the hotel to meet the rest of the fedora gang.
We arrived at 05:00 pm at the location and found a cool big booth, prepared for Fedora. We just made some cosmetics and will do the rest tomorrow. Now we will go back to the hotel to meet the rest of the fedora gang.
Tuesday, March 9, 2010
Review about the Open Source Days 2010 in Copenhagen, Denmark
On behalf of Robert Scheck:
Good evening,
I'm already back since the day before yesterday evening, so it's a good time to write a bit about the Open Source Days 2010 in Copenhagen, Denmark.
The event itself was organized by a volunteer coordination team with help and power from the Open Source community in Denmark and took place in the building of the IT University of Copenhagen.
On Thursday morning, I flew from Stuttgart via Duesseldorf to Copenhagen - it was my first trip to Denmark so far and I already noticed in the airplane from Duesseldorf to Copenhagen that Denmark will get expensive to my moneybag: They directly suggested in the airplane, that we'll pay our snacks using our credit card rather with coins and banknotes. Around noon, I arrived in Copenhagen (their capital is on an island) and took their new metro to the hotel. After dropping my baggage at the hotel, I went over via the Oresund Bridge and Tunnel to Malmö, Sweden for some sightseeing.
At the early Friday morning, I moved on with our swag and booth material to the IT university and prepared our booth. In difference to all events, I attended before, the Open Source Days separated the business exhibitors from the community ones, so we got our booth at the upper floor, while the business people were at the ground floor. Another difference was, that all the community booths were not really presentation booths as we know them e.g. by FOSDEM or similar events, but more like hackfest or round tables. Just imagine, that you are able to sit on the two long sides of the table while the visitors walk around at one short side of the table - so you always sit sidewise to the people. And if you're multiple persons at the booth, the farest one will be nearly never get in touch with visitors; but as we just were less ambassadors, that didn't hurt us that much. Have a look to the pictures to see what I mean regarding the table/chair style.
During the day, I tried to get in touch with the very very less visitors. Keep in mind for the Friday, that this was an almost business oriented day where you had to pay ~ 175 Euro for a visitor ticket. As I don't speak Danish, all communication happened in English and fortunately the Danish people speak English very well, even the older ones, where you wouldn't expect it. Once it came to understanding issues, they said the word slowly in Danish so that I was able to guess the meaning in German (Danish and German languages developed from the same base language, similar as Dutch).
Over the day I learned, that most Linux users in Denmark are Ubuntu users, but there are Fedora users as well. And the less Fedora users that showed up at our both were happy to see a Fedora booth, because it was the first time, that a Linux distribution except Ubuntu had presence on the event. I personally think, it was good to show the Ubuntu community, that Fedora is alive and that they know, they're not the only Linux distribution.
Later at the day, I met the whole Red Hat Denmark office; actually they're two Red Hat people working via home office. Unfortunately Klaus Oxdal was in a hurry, so we didn't have really time to talk with each other, thus I will communicate with him a bit more via e-mail in the next time.
When I went over to attend a talk, Neville A. Cross took care of the booth. Our Neville works for a Nicaraguan company that has a join venture with a Danish company which decided that Open Source Days are a good way to promote an Open Source product they have been using. In the evening, Kris Thomsen, one of our Danish Fedora Ambassadors, arrived and later in the evening we participated at the social event, the "Nokia Open 2010": To be honest, it was more an advertising show of Nokia products and projects; but hey, they sponsored the food and beer! And I skipped the Danish comedian they had gotten for the entertainment, because my Danish understanding was too worse for that... ;-)
At Saturday morning, I moved with our swag and booth material from the hotel to the IT university again and prepared together with Kris our booth for the day. The Saturday was more community related and more community projects built up their booth and had presence at all. And compared with Friday, the ~ 50 Euro for a ticket were really cheap. But from my point of view, even that 50 Euro are too much for a community event. Nevertheless there were many visitors more, but still it was a calm day when comparing with other events, I attended so far.
Kris did also a very good job (the Open Source Days were his first event as Fedora Ambassador) with talking to visitors and promoting Fedora. As speaking the same native language definately lowers the barrier to talk about something, he had more longer and more intensive talks to people, which I really like. In the evening of Saturday we cleaned up the booth and switched to the Scrollbar (the students cafe) for talks, fun and beer...
Another thing, I figured out during the two days is, that there are in Denmark either users or developers somehow. I unfortunately wasn't able to recruit a single new Fedora contributor, because people just want to use Fedora - either as a desktop or as a development system. Nevertheless, I think, it was very important to show up at the biggest Open Source event in Denmark - which is even one of the largest ones in the whole European Nordic region. I talked to the people there and unfortunately, there are just some specific conferences, but no real exhibitions or a real community conferences as we know them from other European regions. That means, the Open Source Days are absolutely unique.
I think, we will have to invest more into the European Nordic region (so Denmark, Norway, Sweden and Finland) to be better known and more used. With less users, there will be just less contributors. That means, we definately need to show up there with Fedora next year again and maybe with ambassadors from Norway or Sweden, if we still have only two Danish Ambassadors then. And if it is possible, Fedora should then make it with a real booth into the business exhibition area, too; that's something I'll put on to my task list and talk with the coordination team of the Open Source Days about. From what we're doing as Fedora, we're more professional and of course more open source minded as some other projects and companies - sorry for writing it
this less friendly but clear way.
But I still have the hope, that due to our presence this year, there are maybe next year some people, that could imagine to sign up in FAS and get a Fedora contributor...who knows? :)
I've made pictures and as there's still no gallery.fedoraproject.org and I still dislike Flickr and similar portals, decided some time ago to start my own tiny gallery at my fedorapeople.org space:
http://robert.fedorapeople.org/events/2010/opensourcedays/
On Sunday, I did some sightseeing in Copenhagen (e.g. The Little Mermaid; the Tivoli is still closed in March) before I flew back in the evening from Copenhagen via Frankfurt to Stuttgart again.
Finally, I would like to say "thank you" to Kris and Neville for their work and support around the event! It really was a pleasure for me to meet and work with both of you. Hope to see you on another event in the future... :)
Greetings,
Robert
Good evening,
I'm already back since the day before yesterday evening, so it's a good time to write a bit about the Open Source Days 2010 in Copenhagen, Denmark.
The event itself was organized by a volunteer coordination team with help and power from the Open Source community in Denmark and took place in the building of the IT University of Copenhagen.
On Thursday morning, I flew from Stuttgart via Duesseldorf to Copenhagen - it was my first trip to Denmark so far and I already noticed in the airplane from Duesseldorf to Copenhagen that Denmark will get expensive to my moneybag: They directly suggested in the airplane, that we'll pay our snacks using our credit card rather with coins and banknotes. Around noon, I arrived in Copenhagen (their capital is on an island) and took their new metro to the hotel. After dropping my baggage at the hotel, I went over via the Oresund Bridge and Tunnel to Malmö, Sweden for some sightseeing.
At the early Friday morning, I moved on with our swag and booth material to the IT university and prepared our booth. In difference to all events, I attended before, the Open Source Days separated the business exhibitors from the community ones, so we got our booth at the upper floor, while the business people were at the ground floor. Another difference was, that all the community booths were not really presentation booths as we know them e.g. by FOSDEM or similar events, but more like hackfest or round tables. Just imagine, that you are able to sit on the two long sides of the table while the visitors walk around at one short side of the table - so you always sit sidewise to the people. And if you're multiple persons at the booth, the farest one will be nearly never get in touch with visitors; but as we just were less ambassadors, that didn't hurt us that much. Have a look to the pictures to see what I mean regarding the table/chair style.
During the day, I tried to get in touch with the very very less visitors. Keep in mind for the Friday, that this was an almost business oriented day where you had to pay ~ 175 Euro for a visitor ticket. As I don't speak Danish, all communication happened in English and fortunately the Danish people speak English very well, even the older ones, where you wouldn't expect it. Once it came to understanding issues, they said the word slowly in Danish so that I was able to guess the meaning in German (Danish and German languages developed from the same base language, similar as Dutch).
Over the day I learned, that most Linux users in Denmark are Ubuntu users, but there are Fedora users as well. And the less Fedora users that showed up at our both were happy to see a Fedora booth, because it was the first time, that a Linux distribution except Ubuntu had presence on the event. I personally think, it was good to show the Ubuntu community, that Fedora is alive and that they know, they're not the only Linux distribution.
Later at the day, I met the whole Red Hat Denmark office; actually they're two Red Hat people working via home office. Unfortunately Klaus Oxdal was in a hurry, so we didn't have really time to talk with each other, thus I will communicate with him a bit more via e-mail in the next time.
When I went over to attend a talk, Neville A. Cross took care of the booth. Our Neville works for a Nicaraguan company that has a join venture with a Danish company which decided that Open Source Days are a good way to promote an Open Source product they have been using. In the evening, Kris Thomsen, one of our Danish Fedora Ambassadors, arrived and later in the evening we participated at the social event, the "Nokia Open 2010": To be honest, it was more an advertising show of Nokia products and projects; but hey, they sponsored the food and beer! And I skipped the Danish comedian they had gotten for the entertainment, because my Danish understanding was too worse for that... ;-)
At Saturday morning, I moved with our swag and booth material from the hotel to the IT university again and prepared together with Kris our booth for the day. The Saturday was more community related and more community projects built up their booth and had presence at all. And compared with Friday, the ~ 50 Euro for a ticket were really cheap. But from my point of view, even that 50 Euro are too much for a community event. Nevertheless there were many visitors more, but still it was a calm day when comparing with other events, I attended so far.
Kris did also a very good job (the Open Source Days were his first event as Fedora Ambassador) with talking to visitors and promoting Fedora. As speaking the same native language definately lowers the barrier to talk about something, he had more longer and more intensive talks to people, which I really like. In the evening of Saturday we cleaned up the booth and switched to the Scrollbar (the students cafe) for talks, fun and beer...
Another thing, I figured out during the two days is, that there are in Denmark either users or developers somehow. I unfortunately wasn't able to recruit a single new Fedora contributor, because people just want to use Fedora - either as a desktop or as a development system. Nevertheless, I think, it was very important to show up at the biggest Open Source event in Denmark - which is even one of the largest ones in the whole European Nordic region. I talked to the people there and unfortunately, there are just some specific conferences, but no real exhibitions or a real community conferences as we know them from other European regions. That means, the Open Source Days are absolutely unique.
I think, we will have to invest more into the European Nordic region (so Denmark, Norway, Sweden and Finland) to be better known and more used. With less users, there will be just less contributors. That means, we definately need to show up there with Fedora next year again and maybe with ambassadors from Norway or Sweden, if we still have only two Danish Ambassadors then. And if it is possible, Fedora should then make it with a real booth into the business exhibition area, too; that's something I'll put on to my task list and talk with the coordination team of the Open Source Days about. From what we're doing as Fedora, we're more professional and of course more open source minded as some other projects and companies - sorry for writing it
this less friendly but clear way.
But I still have the hope, that due to our presence this year, there are maybe next year some people, that could imagine to sign up in FAS and get a Fedora contributor...who knows? :)
I've made pictures and as there's still no gallery.fedoraproject.org and I still dislike Flickr and similar portals, decided some time ago to start my own tiny gallery at my fedorapeople.org space:
http://robert.fedorapeople.org/events/2010/opensourcedays/
On Sunday, I did some sightseeing in Copenhagen (e.g. The Little Mermaid; the Tivoli is still closed in March) before I flew back in the evening from Copenhagen via Frankfurt to Stuttgart again.
Finally, I would like to say "thank you" to Kris and Neville for their work and support around the event! It really was a pleasure for me to meet and work with both of you. Hope to see you on another event in the future... :)
Greetings,
Robert
Tuesday, March 2, 2010
FAmSCo Report for February 2010
Dear Fellows,
i am happy to provide you the monthly FAmSCo Report February 2010!
Thanks to all People who helped to have a successfull February 2010!
i am happy to provide you the monthly FAmSCo Report February 2010!
Thanks to all People who helped to have a successfull February 2010!
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